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In class but wanna just get this out of my head

This is regarding a few choice comments in the fest and not the majority by far which has on the most part been diplomatic and had pretty constructive crit.

I think hd_worldcup is the first fest to give the readers entitlement issues. Yes, this is the one fest where you can say pretty much anything in a comment and NOT have people jump on you if you're being less than squeefull or considerate.

For once on LJ, rather than being pressured into leaving the generic "Me like" comments, we can give constructive feedback because it's a *competition* and fics are there to be judged.

But going as far as pointing out SPAG in a fic when other fics are no exceptions? Seems incredibly petty. But no, errors are errors and yeah you can say what you like. That doesn't stop you from being an asshat.

What I don't get is that if you don't like a fic - your vote will show it. You don't really need to list all the ways a fic failed to work for you because not only will that not be counted in votes but it could also influence the votes other people make or worse, influence them not to read a fic.

If you are really dissatisfied with a fic, blog about it in your own lj or better yet, wait until the end of the fest and comment so the writer can respond and doesn't end up stewing over it for over a month. Sure they can respond anon but not everyone believes in that.

And as much as you'd like to forget about it, the authors ARE individuals and if you start ripping their work apart they'll remember it - especially if you have no tact or consideration. That way, even if they're sort of expected to lie back and take it, they're still going to have a part of their mind where they're beating you to pulp.
HEAR, HEAR!

That's exactly what I've been trying to say, but expressed better than I could. Brava :D
Oh, and I checked. With the exception of one comment on an EWE fic, all the negative of concrit comments are on Epilogue fics (two, really, first and 'last'). There are NO concrit or negative comments on ANY fanon fic, for instance. I have pet theories worth developing. It will be interesting to keep a watch on things.

*iz Ravenclaw* :P
This is the second or third post like this I've seen. I haven't read many of the comments, but were they that bad?

es, this is the one fest where you can say pretty much anything in a comment and NOT have people jump on you if you're being less than squeefull or considerate.

I'm not sure why this would be any more true than any other fest? Is there something I missed?
There are a couple that really could have been expressed better.

Normally with other fests, the fics are usually exchanges or gifts and the rule of thumb would be if you don't like, don't read it and if it was written for someone other than you, there's really no point to give negative crit that way.

But the idea of hd_wc as a competition implies that the participants know from the get go that their work is going to be judged and critiqued. And the comments so far for the fest definitely show that. It's just, where people normally stayed silent if they didn't like things, in this case they're far more vocal about dissatisfaction and the way some of the opinions are flung...wow >__>

It almost seems like after all that silence, they're finally able to tell authors what they did wrong without repercussions and some are just really letting go...
I've participated in Snarry Games for 3 years, and have had all kinds of comments on my stories in my LJ, so I guess my definition of what's acceptable is a bit more broad.

I've been reading through the comments and really, I still don't see anything that was that bad. Maybe one or two that could have been...I don't know worded better. But there wasn't anything that was nasty or troll like.

For myself, I'm not reading all the stories -- some just don't appeal to me. And if I get to the end, I'll leave a comment, but I won't say anything critical. And, as you might guess, there are some where I didn't make it to the end. I'm only recing the ones I really liked.
in this case they're far more vocal about dissatisfaction and the way some of the opinions are flung...wow >__>
For me, as long as a comment is respectful and points out what and why was wrong, it's ok, even if it's a very subjective matter.
I've read the comments for Team Canon entries, and some of the others, but there was one comment that bothered me quite a bit and I think it was very hurtful. I've cooled down since then, but I'd probably react the same way if I read another one like that.
And I think the 'don't like, don't read' rule applies here. I haven't read all the fics until the end, but I didn't hold my not the liking the fic against the author.
I haven't read the comments, but that sort of thing will seriously bother the hell out of someone, especially if they're the type that doesn't feel like their story was that great to begin with. I'm definitely one of those people. If I don't find a fic I wrote amazing, I'll think it absolutely sucks.
Yeah, and when it's your fic, as much as we'd like to be able to suck it up, crit can hurt if it isn't done with some semblance of diplomacy. Negative crit can affect everyone - especially in public comments. When its on lj, comments aren't just reviews >__>
In terms of supporting writers, I agree with you, but in defence of some commenters I think that they are just trying to explain their voting choices, unaware that the writers will never know what they were.

And yes, I agree that the SPAG comment is a bit OTT. I think that almost all worldcup fics will be prone to typos given the timelines for production. Mine has some champion examples! Let's just take them as a given, shall we?
just trying to explain their voting choices, unaware that the writers will never know what they were.

Yknow, I never thought of it that way. Though the more critical comments must be giving the authors anxiety attacks about the votes >__>

YES, EXACTLY ♥
But going as far as pointing out SPAG in a fic when other fics are no exceptions? Seems incredibly petty. But no, errors are errors and yeah you can say what you like. That doesn't stop you from being an asshat.

I always, always point out the most embarrassing typos and such in hope that the author requests the mods to fix them and the reader that read it after me won't see them :) But I only do it with the fics I liked.

Also, I never comment on the fic I don't like. But if I like the fic and see where it could be made stronger? I'll always say it.
Duh. Shouldn't hit "post" at random.

Example: there was a fic at Springsmut, a mystery fic, where the author accidentally spoiled it. She blurted out the name of the "mystery" character in the middle of it, ways before the other character figured it out. I HAD TO point it out 'cos it was a good mystery but that thing? Was annoying like hell. Mods fixed it.
I don't think it would have felt petty at all if you do it only for the fics you like XD I felt miffed because the SPAG line was after a list of other failings too. And it felt a little too much.

I think we follow the same policy of don't like, don't comment:)

That example probably had the author appreciating your comment like hell hahaha
(this won't let me edit. why.)

I'm also starting to get nervous about my fic. Well, not really, because I've had concrit harsh my mellow before, but still.